04-21-2010, 10:32 AM
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Boxer colours and litter colours
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Just wondering about this, as I know very little. Do red boxers only produce red litters. If you breed a red male and a brindle female [for eg] - do you get a mixed coloured litter of reds and brindles? Do white boxers only produce white boxers? Just wondering, have no interest in breeding any litters, just curious that's all.
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04-24-2010, 08:41 AM
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LOL - seems no one else knows the answer to these questions either!
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04-24-2010, 11:06 AM
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Missi should know.
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04-26-2010, 06:56 PM
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Ok . Let me see if I can explain this as I know it.
There are 2 coat color genes . Fawn ( b) and brindle (B).
A dog gets one copy from each parent .
A fawn boxer has 2 (b) genes . 2 fawns can only produce fawns as they only have the (b) gene to pass along . Easy .
Now brindle is a little more difficult .
A brindle can be a dominant brindle if it has 2 (B) genes . It can only pass along a brindle (B) gene .
There are also non-dominant brindles . They have 1 (b) gene and 1 (B) gene , and can pass along either gene. This is because one parent was
fawn(b) and could only pass along (b) gene .
Now if a dog has 1(b) fawn gene and 1(B) brindle gene it will be a brindle as the (B) coat color gene in itself is dominant over fawn.
Example .
Edy is a non-dominant brindle . She has 1 fawn parent and 1 brindle parent .
If bred to a fawn she could produce both fawn & brindles . As the puppies could be (bb) , (bB) .
If bred to a non- dominant brindle she could also produce both fawn & brindle .There could be (bb) , (bB) , (BB).
If bred to a dominant brindle the puppies would all be brindle . The puppies would be (bB) , (BB) .
Make sense?
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04-26-2010, 07:02 PM
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I am just to tired to try to figure this one out, LOL... I've been babysitting my 2 grandkids all day!!! Sounds like algebra to me and I just don't have it in my right now, LOL.
But where does Red come in?
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04-26-2010, 07:14 PM
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Sorry .
Red is fawn . In the UK and Europe they do not call them fawn but red .
It is not really hard . The brindle color is dominant over a fawn (red) color .
So if a dog has even 1 brindle gene they will look brindle .
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04-26-2010, 07:22 PM
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I didn't realize fawn was recessive, that's really interesting. It seems to me I've seen more fawn boxers than brindle. Maybe some are just lighter brindle and I didn't notice. Is the rules for boxers like it is for bostons, where nearly any amount of black (in BTs case brown) makes the dog brindle?
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04-26-2010, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bruinsBoxers
Sorry .
Red is fawn . In the UK and Europe they do not call them fawn but red .
It is not really hard . The brindle color is dominant over a fawn (red) color .
So if a dog has even 1 brindle gene they will look brindle .
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Oh!!!!!
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04-27-2010, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeperBoy
I didn't realize fawn was recessive, that's really interesting. It seems to me I've seen more fawn boxers than brindle. Maybe some are just lighter brindle and I didn't notice. Is the rules for boxers like it is for bostons, where nearly any amount of black (in BTs case brown) makes the dog brindle?
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Even 1 black stripe makes the dog a brindle .
One of Edy's brothers had very few stripes , I would call him a frindle , half fawn half brindle .
Every few years I see the color preference change . Some years you see lots of fawn then a few years later lots more brindles . I honestly think it has a lot to do with what dogs are winning big . Then people tend to breed to them of their close relatives.
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04-28-2010, 09:23 AM
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Thanks ever so much Missi for taking the time to explain it all, I appreciate that. You wrote it really well and I understand what you have said, many thanks again, SO interesting!
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