Old 07-08-2009, 08:42 AM   #11
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Aren't you concerned about problems with disease and the dogs getting worms from the uncooked meat ? What about them choking on the bones .I'm curious why no cooked bones ?
I do give Babe the yogurt now every other day sometimes every day if her stomach seems upset . To mush excitement causes her the heave alot but it's getting better now that she's settling in with us .
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:46 AM   #12
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Dogs digestive tracts are totally different than humans. From my understanding they are far more likely to get salmonella from contaminated kibble than from raw meat. We've been feeding raw for over a year now with no problems at all.
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What about them choking on the bones .I'm curious why no cooked bones ?
Cooked bones splinter and cause choking.
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Aren't you concerned about problems with disease and the dogs getting worms from the uncooked meat ? What about them choking on the bones .I'm curious why no cooked bones ? .
http://rawfed.com/myths/parasites.html

Myth: MY DOG WILL ACQUIRE PARASITES FROM THE RAW MEAT IN A RAW DIET.
Yes, there can be parasites in raw meat. But if you are getting meaty bones and carcasses from places fit for human consumption, the parasite factor is negligible. Most parasites are a non-issue and can be safely dealt with by your dog if it is healthy.

The parasite issue is something than non-raw folk use as a scare tactic, telling you that your dog is going to die if it eats raw meat because it will get a weird parasite. They neglect to tell you the very low incidence of these parasites in meat deemed safe for human consumption; nor do they tell you the most "deadly" of these parasites come from things like infected sheep placentas or stillborn calves. Simple solution—do not feed those things to your dog. If the dog looks like it has parasites, simply get a stool sample or blood sample taken. A dog can be wormed holistically or allopathically (the chemical insecticide dewormers). But generally speaking, if your dog has a healthy immune system, it can deal with the parasites before they even get a chance to establish themselves. Parasites hate a very healthy host.

Freezing meat can help kill many parasites (such as the parasite present in salmon that CAN cause a deadly disease in dogs; freezing fresh raw salmon, steelhead, trout, and other salmonids for at least 24 hours before feeding effectively disposes of the parasite. Cooked salmon does not carry the parasite.). As long as one exercises caution in obtaining their meat, parasites are a non-issue. If feeding fresh salmonids or wild game, it is recommended that the meat be deep frozen for at least 24 hours before feeding for salmonids and one month for wild game.

Do not give in to the bacteria and parasite scare tactics. The suggestion of cooking your dog's food is actually quite harmful! It is the cooked food that causes problems with the dog's digestive system and that can result in the nutritional deficiencies vets claim they see from raw diets (in reality, most of these nutritional deficiencies arise primarily from home-cooked diets, since cooking destroys many valuable nutrients.). This issue is dealt with in further detail in the Cooked Food myth.



anybone that is cooked, heated, smoked (even those you buy from the pet store for your dog) are dangerous because they splinter and may perforate the colon. But it is very safe to give your dog a large raw bone to chew, mine love ribs!!! It will clean the teeth and improve the breath and your dog will love you for it!
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What many people do not realize is that e-coli and salmonella and many other parasites are found in your everyday environment , It is in the dirt everywhere .

There is no way to determine where a dog has contracted these parasites , but most vets will first blame the raw diet when e-coli etc... is found . Remember that dogs can absorb germs and parasties through their feet not to mention chewing sticks and eating other yucky things outside .

A dogs digestive tract is much shorter and much much more acidic than a persons . The acidity level will kill off any bacteira that there may be .

Cooked bones are soft and flexible , cooked bones will splinter . And not all bones are to be 100% eaten . Only non-weight bearing bom=nes are to be consumed . all other large bones are recreational bones , to be chewed on but not consumed as a meal .
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Aren't you concerned about problems with disease and the dogs getting worms from the uncooked meat ?
No need to be concerned we are talking about human grade meats/products for example my DH is home sick and I made him some chicken soup on Monday, I raided the dog freezer for the chicken and chicken frames I used to make the stock, it was purchased from the butcher where I get our people meat from. Your dog is far more likely to get worms from catching a bird or any other type of critter that comes into your yard or that they may find along their walk. I am glad you are asking these questions, shows you are interested and thinking for yourself. Check out the link to the Raw Feeding Myths found on the original post of this thread, we may be able to convert you.
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My Daisy caught herself a squirrel earlier this spring. I froze it for 30 days and let her eat it!! She deserved it
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LOL She did her own grocery shopping
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:19 AM   #20
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Thanks for the info but the the e-coli scare last week i don't think I want to take any chances right now and yes I read your post Bruinsboxers . Maybe when she's full grown I will let her have some raw meat as a treat now & then . If nothing else I won't freak out if she does happen to get raw meat by accident ,like jumping up on counter when she big enough to reach .
When I have time I will read all those links you gave us I'm sure there's lots of useful info there .
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