Old 10-14-2009, 02:35 PM   #11
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ok i'll up the bones a bit and cut the liver out for now.

he did eat a fair bit of liver last week, so that may be it.
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe chicken liver should not be given everyday...only 2-3x per wk?? Ron, i gave up on chicken liver cause of the poos LOL try some bf kidney (it's cheap too!!)/heart instead...
how's the fish going?? serving up anything stinkier than smelt yet?? LOL LOL
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:36 PM   #12
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Is beef heart considered offal??
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:41 PM   #13
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i haven't tried any more fish yet. maybe i'll try some again this week
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:44 PM   #14
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Is beef heart considered offal??
yes, and it can be also served as a full meal.
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I thought beef and lamb heart were considered muscle?
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Sorry I'm late with my "say" on this one . Chicken frames, turkey necks are my fave "bone meals". Older dogs can be a little more sensitive to skin and fat (which can cause the squirts) so keep that in mind and I agree with Eli with the liver - I would not feed it every day.

As for the heart, I hope I don't confuse you with this but here goes.....heart is an organ so it is offal BUT it is a muscle as is stomach so it can be fed as a muscle (meat) it isn't nearly as rich as say liver or kidney - make sense?
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:24 PM   #17
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Can you count heart as offal??
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Can you count heart as offal??
As I am sure you have already discovered when researching RAW feeding and just comparing the RAW feeders on the Hub that everyone seems to have their "own way" of doing things. Personally I feed hearts, gizzards as the muscle (meat) portion. The reason I do this (or the reason I tell myself lol ) is that being a muscle I feel the hearts and gizzards would be very similar to the meat (muscle) and probably providing very similar nutrients, they would not provide the same nutrients that say liver or kidney would. They are a little richer than standard muscle, but muscle all the same. Ruby generally gets two heart meals in a fortnight - I usually buy 1kg vac sealed lamb hearts and 1kg vac sealed beef hearts and she will get hearts one meal a day for two days in a row each fortnight. Hearts are a great cheap way of adding beef and lamb to their diet. So heart is an organ and is therefore offal BUT for the purposes of RAW feeding I put it in the "muscle" ratio.
To answer your question directly - some do, I don't, I feel it is too similar to "normal" muscle meat, but thats JMO
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Try feeding him raw uncooked chicken frames/carcass - the kind you use for soup (after the meat has been removed for human consumption). They have a good ratio of meat to bone and are easily digestible. Our local butcher gives them away for free some times.

I would only feed offal, gizzards, etc once a week. They will almost always cause runny poo. And besides, too much raw liver can cause Vitamin A toxicity.
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