Question about "stay"

KeeperBoy · 09-27-2009, 08:43 AM

We're working on down-stay and stand-stay right now. We won't ever do formal obedience but I like knowing what the standards are. In a down stay can a dog roll on its hip? Or must it stay in the normal down with the legs under the body the whole time?

whitedaisy · 09-27-2009, 09:09 AM

actually I believe it is preferred to roll on the hip, my trainer called it a relaxed stay.

KeeperBoy · 09-27-2009, 09:23 AM

I know for Keepers we ALWAYS want him on his hip because it means he's "chilled". But I just didn't know for a formal obedience type of a thing. The only time I've encouraged them not to roll is on the table at agility, just so they can pop up faster.

whitedaisy · 09-27-2009, 12:19 PM

Oh, I'm not sure about formal stuff... Cathy would probably know hopefully she sees this thread.

brindlebox · 09-27-2009, 04:58 PM

I believe they can lay on there hip as it is harder for them too pop out out. I know I have even done this on the table too cause my guys hate the table!

bruinsBoxers · 09-28-2009, 07:30 AM

From what I remember .
Whatever position they lie down in is the position they must stay in once you give the stay command . If they are laying on their right hip they can not move and lay on their left hip .

Same thing with the stand stay , once you give the stay command they can not move their feet from the position you left them in .

JoeV · 09-28-2009, 11:09 AM

during a down-stay the dog is looking at you, waiting for you to give it a release command. so if the dog is playing, rolling over, just relaxing on your down-stay, the command is being recognized slighly off from what it is intended. when the dog is in a down-stay, looking at you/listening for you, and then the handler goes by it's side and releases it, that's the correct way to accomplish the command. (always go back to the dog, beside it, before releasing it from a stay)

Spyglass Sally · 09-28-2009, 07:27 PM

And to think I was happy with Buddy just because he remained in the same vicinity. LOL! He's been getting off way too easy!

brindlebox · 09-28-2009, 08:47 PM

I asked at class tonight and yes your dog can roll on there hip it is considered a relaxed down. and is actually better for the stay position.

KeeperBoy · 09-28-2009, 09:03 PM

I asked our trainer also. So the trick with Keeps will be to get him to roll on his left hip (his comfy hip) before I give him the stay command. I was saying "down, stay" too close together and he would roll after I said stay.

I love dog training!

Side note... little Boo kicked butt today at her class